You will have better luck with your stock front end. Your mustang ii ifs parts package contains the parts listed above. If you plan to use a power rack from a fox chassis mustang, thunderbird the second hole dim. The front suspension was definately the best part of that car. Fat mans new setup is a bolton kit, instead of the invasive mustang ii kit that requires moving the engine up and forward, which adversely affects. Professionally drawn, fullydimensioned engineering drawings that show every aspect of mustang ii street rod front suspension construction. This is the kit that started it allthe gts front suspension for mopar muscle cars. From 19642020, cj pony parts has bumpsteer kits, mustang springs, both front and rear control arms, sway bars, plus full mustang suspension kits and many other components to help owners upgrade or maintain their.
I made this an educational section of the build so i bought some books, did tons of research and learned much about suspensions. Mustang ii v8 had more angle and a lot more front weight bias. Helix mustang ii ifs kits feature all the factory dimensions and mount locations for correct suspension geometry and smooth installation. Engineering and design commons, and the manufacturing commons. I can see this topic has almost been beat to death, but i would like to revive it. Design features include beefy control arms, aldan or strange adjustable poly. To create a new standard we had to start from scratch. The truth about hydroforming and its myth of superiority. We offer our bones builder kits, hub to hub kits and subframe kits for those applications that need a front stub.
Because internet explorers maximum url length is shorter than other browsers, your project cannot be saved properly in this browser. Helix mustang ii ifs suspension packages feature all the factory dimensions and mount locations for correct suspension geometry and smooth installation. Thats why the mustang ii front suspension is by far todays most popular independent front end with the street rod, restorod, hot rod, rat rod and custom car community. During the 60s and 70s the design of the mopar front suspension was a better design than any of the other big 3. Begin the suspension component installation with the upper and lower control arms using. Hey paul, i have a 1980 chevy luv truck that i want to put a mustang ii front suspension into. Complete mustang ii front end for hot rod, generic sheet metal that can be trimmed to fit under various old cars. Suspension geometry part 1 camber, toe, caster, kpi. Im only putting on new hairpins, or im swapping in the complete front suspension clip from a latermodel car. Ok, i really dont want to start an argument but you are full of siht. As the 70s rolled forward, fords diminutive pinto and mustang ii which shared most of their underpinnings began to show up in wrecking yards. Dec 03, 2009 mustang ii spindles are front steer steering arms point forward and can consequently not be used on classic mustangs unless you dont care about weird steering geometry the wilwood spindle is a possible candidate, since it uses bolt on steering arm, but unfortenately the steering arm geometery is not a good match.
Many manufacturers have all of the parts needed spindles, brakes, springs, sway bars, etc. Standard mustang ii spindles will set the pin at 12 below frame rails and a 2 drop will set it at 112 above frame rails. They will give your car or truck the excellent handling of independent suspension, along with reliable stopping power. They come in economy and deluxe configurations with or without crossmembers. It provides a stable platform from which to control the vehicle. Installation instructions mustang ii ifs complete parts. How the mustang ii left a lasting mark on hot rodding hagerty media. The mustang ii mii suspension geometry originally came from the 70 pinto. The relentless mustang geeks at maximum motorsports have a solution to improve the front suspension geometry of your lowered mustang, as well. Our cool, greatriding adjustablerideheight monospring front suspension is designed for 28 34 fords, but it can be readily adapted to other applications, too. They retain all the factory dimensions and locations, so you get all the benefit of factory ford engineering in your front end. For years, the mustang ii style independent front suspension has been a popular choice on a variety of builds. Sep 17, 2007 so, higherend street rod shops started to design front suspension systems with the advantages of the mustang ii suspension compact package, great geometry but with customfabricated, extrabeefy to use an engineering term, components.
Links may be made to the site, but the product may not be redistributed in any way other than by direct download from. Front view suspension geometry calculatorsimulator. For stock mustang ii rack and pinions, power or manual, the first hole is 2 18 dim. If you would like to change any of the features in this kit, please call us toll free at 199884045. Helix mustang ii ifs suspension packages free shipping on.
Mustang ii front end for a bodies only mopar forum. Classic industries offers 1959 chevrolet truck ball joints, 1959 chevrolet truck bushings, 1959 chevrolet truck control arms, 1959 chevrolet truck conversion kits, 1959 chevrolet truck front end rebuild kits, 1959 chevrolet truck spindles oe, 1959. This program is provided free of charge for personal use in the assisting of suspension calculations. Mustang ii suspension and corvette spindle based geometry are things of the past. Benefits of switching to an independent front suspension range from better handling, to more flexibility when it comes to component selection. Make your own ifs based on mustang ii geometry article by. Interlocking design for ultimate strength based on proven mustang ii geometry weldin boxing plates to reinforce the frame. No part of the program or code shall be reproduced for commercial use. Vsusp no longer supports any version of internet explorer. As used on the 2015 mustang and other ford platforms. Classic industries offers a wide selection of front suspension for your 1959 chevrolet truck. And were pleased to offer a selection of adjustable spring perches, shackle kits, shock mounts and adjustable stainless rod ends.
Although the mustang ii is not the best layout for competition, it is a tried and true geometry for thousands of street rods and hundreds of thousands of highway miles. Tci improves coil spring ifsmustang ii suspension rod. When i first bought my 71 maverick last year i had in mind that i would stuff an engine in it and. Basic suspension geometry lessons rod and custom magazine. It was designed in the late 60s specifically as a cheaptomake setup for a fourcylinder car with. Oct 15, 2012 for years, the mustang ii style independent front suspension has been a popular choice on a variety of builds. Discussion in projects, mods, restoration started by saltydog. Helix mustang ii ifs suspension packages feature all the factory. Im not sure of the task force width ranges at this time. Classic industries offers a wide selection of 1959 chevrolet truck parts, including 1959 chevrolet truck interior parts and soft trim, 1959 chevrolet truck exterior sheet metal, 1959 chevrolet truck moldings, 1959 chevrolet truck emblems, 1959 chevrolet truck weatherstrip and unique accessories, to nearly every nut and bolt needed for installation. If you plan to use a power rack from a fox chassis mustang, thunderbird the. The side view shows the upper arm pivot center line at the front, the center, and at the back. Of course, we hope you will use some welder series parts in your design. Among its benefits were compact packaging and good geometry for agile.
If you have a good idea on where your center of mass is on your vehicle you can adjust the upper angle to match it. Brian defords reverse trike adventure chapter 6 front. Rear suspension geometry is your car loose and cross weight nor springs will fix the problem. Had anyone grafted original musatng ii pinto front suspension in a mustang. A mustang ii independent front suspension system was purchased from heidts. Although latemodelcorvettebased systems offer similar. There is no need to widen or otherwise modify the ford design or use long tie rod ends. Mustang ii front suspension build your own for a fraction. The mustang ii isnt the best handling suspension out there, but imo it is decent. The ifs is designed to accommodate mustang ii spindles or morrisons. Heck, the mustang ii ifs is so versatile that youll sometimes even see them improving the ride on tbucket hot rods. Cj pony parts sells hundreds of mustang suspension parts, and these mustang suspension components are available for any mustang. Jan 29, 2018 suspension geometry part 1 camber, toe, caster, kpi, scrub radius sk8215. The track width is standard 5612 depending on which brake kit is used.
Design and fabrication of a suspension rig digital commons. We have designs for ford, chevy, pontiac, studebacker. How does the original mustang ii compare to the after market type in terms of suspension geometry. The front panel allows the user to select program for each experiment and log the.
Improving mustang front suspension geometry with maximum. Famed builder chuck lombardo claims to be the first person to use mustang ii suspension on the front of a street rod in 1974. The most complete subframe system chassisworks musclecar gmachine camaro subframe is a directfit, high. Helix suspension brakes and steering hexifsmufbyd01mldb sku. Heidts mustang ii complete front suspension kits are everything you need to get the handling and stopping power that you have been looking for. The mustang ii suspension is not a great handling suspension, hell one of ams the pioneer of the mustang ii clip being used as a donor suspension chief engineers for many years will admit to that. Most of the individual kits, such as the control arms, have their own separate instructions which are packaged in their boxes. Front view suspension geometry calculatorsimulator initializing. Helix mustang ii ifs suspension packages free shipping. It provides a way to isolate the chassis and driver from the shocking jolts that the tires experience going over anything but a glasssmooth surface.
Suspension adjustability information, and recommended alignment type. The mustang ii spindles are short from upper bj to the lower bj so the arm tends to at full lift hit the upper bag mount, limiting travel to around 6. Heidts mustang ii complete front suspension kits jegs. Im sure that the ruggedness of the nissan is equal to that of the mustang ii.
Advance design trucks seem to be using rear ends with widths ranging from 58 62. While not a true mustang ii spindle geometry, it does accept standard wheel hubs and. Cleansheet design, not mustang ii or revised oem geometry. We can setup an auction for any type of mustang ii front suspension you need. That being said, i have installed a mustang ii front suspension kit. C from the left driver side us and the second is 16 to the right passenger us dim. Javascript is disabled or scripts are not loading javascript is required in order to use this simulator. Or, maybe you are looking for a little more forward bite. My front suspension is a tubular double aarm and uses a wilwood. Aug 04, 2015 the mustang ii isnt the best handling suspension out there, but imo it is decent.
Does the mustang ii really give you that much more space between the rails. Most of the mustang ii swap that i see on the web are the aftermarket type. Yes thats the one, its still sitting where it was, the build on that car has stalled at the moment. How the mustang ii left a lasting mark on hot rodding.
Classic industries offers 1966 ford mustang ball joints, 1966 ford mustang bushings, 1966 ford mustang control arms, 1966 ford mustang conversion kits, 1966 ford mustang front end rebuild kits, 1966 ford mustang spindles oe, 1966 ford mustang spindles. Everything from classic rods and customs to pickup trucks can utilize this design. Welder series although the mustang ii is not the best layout for competition, it is a tried and true geometry for thousands of street rods and hundreds of thousands of highway miles. Revolutionize your suspension with helix ifs packages.
The following is a general list of rear ends and their dimensions to help narrow the search for a possible candidate to replace the torque tube rear end or just get a better set of gears for highway driving. Plus many of them are rack and pinion, the rack takes up valuable oilpan space. Front and rear suspension analysis simulation software program. Click for more info online chris alstons chassisworks. The heidts superride ii front suspension is based on the mustang ii design but is for more performancefocused 196570 mustang builds heidts suspension systems today, many vendors sell mustang ii front suspension systems that share no parts with the original version. So, higherend street rod shops started to design front suspension systems with the advantages of the mustang ii suspension compact package, great geometry but with customfabricated, extrabeefy to use an engineering term, components. When i say the geometry is better than a mustang ii front end i am refering to undesirable changes in camber and. There is much more load sharing between the two sides than with the stock suspension, and a much more rigid connection between the two sides. Mustang ii suspension kits come complete with crossmember, paintable tubular upper and lower full aframe style control arms, 11 five lug rotors, bearings and seals, springs, shocks, stock spindles, gm calipers with brackets and pads, manual rack and pinion with tie rod ends and bushings, rubber spring cushions. Helix suspension brakes and steering hexifsmufcyd01mldb sku. Mustang ii suspension question moved from suspension.
Some performance suspensions out there are based on mustang ii suspension, a suspension that was developed for a lightweight compact car using 1970s technology, and at a time when performance handling wasnt a part of the vocabulary of most american cars. That would be fine on a pickup but not all that necessary. The company now offers a front strut kit for select shocktowerequipped ford models from 1964 to 1973. I dont know the distance across the frame rails yet, but i know you are going to. Heidts basic mustang ii front suspension kit can give a 196570. Suspension geometry part 1 camber, toe, caster, kpi, scrub. All can be ordered with our standard coil spring or ultra ride coilovers with adjustable mounting brackets. Although latemodelcorvettebased systems offer similar performance, your choice of wheels is extremely limited to flatface, highnegativeoffset wheels.
That being said, i have installed a mustang ii front suspension kit in my brothers previous mustang for the second reason. Revo has been created from the ground up, leaving behind the antiquated mustang ii geometry and ride quality. Suspension geometry part 1 camber, toe, caster, kpi, scrub radius sk8215. Front suspension brian defords reverse trike adventure.
Classic industries offers 1966 ford mustang ball joints, 1966 ford mustang bushings, 1966 ford mustang control arms, 1966 ford mustang conversion kits, 1966 ford mustang front end rebuild kits, 1966 ford mustang spindles oe, 1966 ford. The reason is that a lot of the posts started back in 2003, 2008 etc. These are what evolved into the current mustang ii suspension package we see today. Classic industries offers a wide selection of front suspension for your 1966 ford mustang. Originally, the mustang ii ifs became popular with street rodders not. Speedtech extreme subframes speedtech performance usa. Fat mans new setup is a bolton kit, instead of the invasive mustang ii kit that requires moving the engine up and forward, which adversely affects weight distribution and handling. Fat man fabrication is probably best known for its mustang iitype front suspension systems. The suspension on a vehicle serves multiple purposes. Mustang ii front suspension build your own for a fraction of the. Susprog3d suspension by design is a complete software package enabling the design. Keeping this in mind i chose to purchase a suspension design software that i could. Chassisworks g machine front end is a truly versatile highperformance suspension. Camber and caster are adjustable with oe shims at the upper control arm.
Chassisworks new gmachine design, developed with the aid of finite element analysis fea software, is far superior in performance, reliability, and ease of installation than components made to directly replace 40yearold 60s musclecar geometry and variants of the 30yearold mustang ii suspension. The basic assembly for a mustang ii ifs is shown on the exploded view on this sheet. Front suspension geometry pro incredible, amazing and astonishing, you have to see it to believe it. The front wheel track of the rt is much wider in stance than the mustang ii so using standard aarms would not provide the correct geometry for the suspension travel. These dimensions will give the stock mustang ii antidive angle of 4 degrees. Mustang ii coilover ifs w stock control arms, coilovers. Speedway 196470 mustang weldon mustang ii suspension. These speedway mustang ifs kits for 196470 ford mustangs are natural conversions to improve your vehicles suspension, handling, and overall performance. Mustang ii suspension question moved from suspension section. Modern mustang ii suspension systems reinforce the frame rails with steel plate, and then tie the two sides together with a very substantial crossmember.
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